How did it compare to working on Frozen? “The metaphor we use is with Frozen it was more like we were architects and with WandaVision it was more like the building had been built. Little did we know that it would be such an involved, creative and out-of-the-box idea that involved our perfect skillset.” “But it was an easy ‘yes’ to give,” Robert adds, “because I was praying against all hope that Marvel would one day call because as a family, we love Marvel. You have to say “yes” in order to find out what it is’ – and because Marvel is so protected and the firewalls have firewalls.we said yes,” Kristen laughs. “He said, ‘I can’t tell you what it is, you have to say “yes”. “Matt called Bobby in the summer of 2019 and said: ‘I have something I want to work with you on,’” Kristen explains. Some end in failure and some end in success but they all have this common component of failure.” That’s really important information.” Robert agrees: “Every creative project is made up of moments of failure along the way.
#FROZEN SONG LET IT GO MOVIE#
“He says they have a policy of fail as big and as quickly as possible because that’s when you really learn you know, ‘oh that’s what this movie isn’t’. They use the motto of Pixar’s Andrew Stanton, whom they worked with writing another Oscar-winning song for animated film Coco. While not as commercially successful as its predecessor, the duo say taking risks and not being afraid to fail is a vital part of their songwriting process. The song’s lyrics are poignant: “This grief has a gravity, it pulls me down/ But a tiny voice whispers in my mind/ ‘You are lost, hope is gone/ But you must go on/ And do the next right thing’.” “It was a message of ‘life is going to be hard, but you can do it, you must continue’,” Kristen adds.
“His family had just gone through the world’s hardest thing to ever go through: the song ‘The Next Right Thing’ came out of that,” Kristen explains. Chris Buck, the director of Frozen, lost his young son soon after the original film came out and the loss inspired many of the sequel’s emotive themes. The couple found the sequel a challenge to write, especially as it came out of tragic roots. “It really is about looking at those unconscious biases that are at play when you make staffing decisions, when you make ticket buying decisions, and saying, ‘This might be new, but I’m going to try it’, if you really care about moving the needle forward.” Frozen felt like it moved the needle forward, they say, and they tried to build on this in what came next via the musical and sequel. We were in the basement of our house writing for nine months trying not to freak out.” “We really had to stick to the calendar, or we just wouldn’t make it. We had 27 songs at one point for Frozen,” they laugh, putting their arms around one another and mock grimacing as they remember the long hours and demanding schedule. “You have one draft and then six weeks later it falls to the floor, then you have to start all over again. “ Frozen was still being built at the same time as we were writing the music,” she says. Once the narrative started to take shape, the process to create the music was gruelling. As Kristen puts it, “we switched the perfectionist narrative up. The idea of tearing up ideas of unattainable perfection that girls see daily was particularly important to them. Just being the Little Mermaid wasn’t enough anymore.” Kristen and Lee said the Frozen team set about creating a modern-day feminist hero, “rebuilding from the ground up”, creating a character both their daughters – and other young girls – could relate to more. As a feminist, I was thinking: ‘What does this mean?’ She also wanted to be a princess bride, the bride version of the Little Mermaid. “My daughter wanted to dress up as a Disney princess every day. “We were struggling with the same issues,” she says. The two little girls reminded us of our little girls.” Kristen agrees, saying the offer came at a time when she and writer Lee were both having challenging conversations about their young daughters dressing up as princesses. “We knew from this one image we had from Disney – the image of the two sisters – that we’d have a lot to say about this. Robert says they drew on their own two daughters to help inform the songwriting.
The songwriting duo suddenly found themselves heavily involved in the creation of the characters and the story.
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